Kurt, when was BLAGSS formed?
Itās actually our 25th anniversary and weāre having a big event at The Grand in June to celebrate. With Brighton having the LGBTQ+ population that it does, higher than the national average, it was important to have a place where like-minded people ā who were interested in sport ā had a safe and welcoming place where they could play and also enjoy the social aspect. Itās grown to close on 450 members, all local to Brighton and Hove, and we now host over 15 different sports. As recognition for the great work that the organisation and its members do, earlier this month BLAGSS won the award for Outstanding Local LGBTQ+ Sports Organisation at the Federation of Gay Games AGM.
So when did the football start?
The football team has been going for around ten years now and when I joined, seven years ago, we had eight people and used old gymnastics mats for goals and played in a local sports hall. From that we now compete in the Gay Football Supportersā Network [GFSN] and we train for an hour-and-a-half each week on an astroturf pitch. Weāve got a core of around 30 players, but get 14 for a matchday, and weāve recently started a Saturday morning taster session for those who maybe have never played the game before but want to get involved.Ā
You also have a womxnās team, right?
Our football used to be one mixed session, but itās split into two now because the womxnās side began to grow even quicker than the menās side. Their numbers are in excess of 50 now; they train separately on a Tuesday, and have done really, really well.
Tell us more about your GFSN campaign thenā¦
We play in Division Two and travel as far as Glasgow, Cardiff, Liverpool and Leicester, along with a couple of games against teams in London, so thereās plenty of travelling involved. Weāve played two games this season, beating Glasgow at home and losing to Soho away. Last year was our first season competing in the league and we made it to the semi-finals of the play-offs which was a great achievement.
Given the travel involved, do you make it a social thing as much as football?
Some of our players will drive straight back home after a game, but yes, there is the social element to it. Weāll play the game in the afternoon, then make an evening of it in that chosen city afterwards. While we do get some great support from Sussex FA, in terms of grants, weāre not subsidised, so the cost of travelling to games comes out of the membersā pockets.
How did you get involved personally?
The vast majority of our footballers would have played Sunday or Saturday football and just got disillusioned with it ā be it as a result of specific abuse or just being put off by the āmachoā football environment around them. BLAGSS is not like that; we all come from similar backgrounds with similar attitudes. Itās a safer more welcoming environment and thatās what appealed to me. Weāve all got a love of football and all united by being LGBTQ+.
What about age ranges?
Weāve got players who are currently at Uni, aged 18 or 19, and weāve had one chap who played for us right into his seventies ā he was our little midfield dynamo. Our oldest current player now is in his fifties so itās a broad church.
Itās not just about the football though, is it?
BLAGSS is a sports and social group that now has around 450 lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender members from across Brighton and Hove, Sussex and beyond.
The society encompasses many sports and if thereās one we donāt currently do, weāre happy to give it a go. For instance, this year we had taster sessions for kayaking and beach tennis, while tenpin bowling is a new addition this year. Each sport we run has a volunteer coordinator, who will sort the booking of the venue and they take the payments. Each sport will also host its own social events, while weāll also hold events for the entire society. For instance, we hosted a tenpin bowling night recently at the marina, taking over all 26 lanes, and, as mentioned, the 25th anniversary gala dinner will be taking place at The Grand next year.
You mentioned the uncomfortable environment you encountered earlier in your career, but are attitudes changing?
At grassroots level, we will play local teams in friendlies; we also play in an annual Football v Homophobia game at Culver Road, in conjunction with the Sussex FA, and there was lots of positive engagement with the opposition, which was really encouraging ā and I hope thatās being mirrored around the country. Thereās some really good work being done by The FA, the Sussex FA and, of course, Brighton & Hove Albion, but as a football fan who travels around the country supporting Ipswich Town, thereās still work to be done. You still see things, hear things, but it is much better than it was when I first started playing and watching games.
Josh Cavallo recently became the worldās only openly gay footballer. Do you think weāll see a player come out in England any time soon?
I think there would be overwhelming support, like there has been for Josh in Australia. You hear stories that there are players ready to come out here, but theyāre advised not to because itās not worth ruining their ābrandā - but I think it would only enhance their brand. On stats alone, there must be a number of gay players in the Premier League right now but that stigma around fans and the media is stopping them coming out. Until someone does take that giant leap forward, we donāt really know what the reaction will be, but itās going to take a brave person to do it. In an ideal world is not about coming out; itās about being who you are, a professional footballer, where your sexual orientation or colour or religion is irrelevant ā thatās the holy grail for me.
āMore educated, more awareā
Colin talks about time with the society, a changing landscape and his years supporting the Seagullsā¦
Like Kurt, I had previously played Sunday league football in the city and got a bit disillusioned with the environment I found myself in. Some of the language spoken was very uncomfortable for me and I even took a break from football for a while. I then discovered the BLAGSS football team and I instantly found it a much safer and more comfortable environment to play in.
When I joined we only had ten players and itās grown to the point where we are now in our second season in the GFSN league. It was a bit of a leap of faith because we donāt have huge numbers but itās been absolutely brilliant ā not just the playing side but the social aspect of bringing people together, which is a big part of what we do.
Weāve actually had some great trips down the years; we went to Munich, weāve been to Helsinki and have also been to Paris a couple of times. It really brings people together who have that common interest of football.
We also play at the Sussex FA headquarters, as part of the Football v Homophobia month of action, and itās always great to play on such a lovely pitch. As we walk down the tunnel and onto the pitch, we feel like proper footballers ā and it was the same at Whitehawk a few months back when three of us played in the Rainbow Rovers game. I managed to tackle David James, which led to a goal, so Iāll be living off that for years to come!
As far as watching the Albion in concerned, the atmosphere at the Amex has improved. I went to Withdean and the Goldstone and the homophobic chants were always there. You still get the occasional chant these days, Iāve even heard the odd word in the North Stand, but people these days are more educated, more aware.
I came out 16 years ago now, and itās far easier to do so which is, again, partly down to education. The work the club does, for instance, around the Rainbow Laces campaign is incredible and itās always heartening to see signs at the Amex or hear senior members of staff saying that abuse in any form will not be tolerated. That certainly makes you feel more comfortable.
Iām interested to see now whether we can take that next quantum leap and see a player coming out here. I think it will happen, itās only a matter of time, but itās going to take a brave person to be the first. Iām sure the environment that greets them will be a really positive, although youāre always going to get the keyboard warriors showing their immaturity and idiocy on social media.
Iāve always been proud to support the Albion ā right back to those dark days at the Goldstone (I was at Hereford), then the promotions at Withdean and seeing a young Bobby Zamora showcasing his special talent. Heās right up there among my favourite Albion players ever, although Lewis Dunk is the undisputed number one, a local boy done good, who has stuck with us and guided through these early seasons in the Premier League. Heās the epitome of everything thatās so good about this club.
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